שיחת משתמש:~riley

Pages marked for deletion

Please do not mark pages for delketion on this wiki, even if they only have a title. These are works in progress and need to be kept.

I banned you to avoid further damage by you. Your ban shall expire in two hours.

--נחום - שיחה 03:55, 27 בינואר 2016 (IST)

Interesting.. Why would you have a bot create blank pages? There is a reason red links exist, it shows that the article needs to be created. Creating a blank article makes it appear that there is something actually available to read when you click on that link. Also, banning me after I stopped editing to "prevent further damage" doesn't seem very logical. -Riley Huntley (SWMT) 03:58, 27 בינואר 2016 (IST)

I didn't know you stopped editing. You have been unbanned. Please avoid in the future marking pages for deletion on this wiki.--נחום - שיחה 04:01, 27 בינואר 2016 (IST)

If these were created as "works in progress", they should not have been made empty pages, the least that should have been done was a category added to the page signifying that it is a work in progress, or a template. Consensus on Wikimedia projects is that empty pages are not to be made. -Riley Huntley (SWMT) 04:02, 27 בינואר 2016 (IST)

Ok, checking the pages, you seem to be right. Most of these pages seem to have been made by bots, most likely by mistake. My sincere apologies.--נחום - שיחה 04:23, 27 בינואר 2016 (IST)

תודה לך על הזמן, הסבלנות וההבנה שלך. תודיע לי אם אני יכול להיות של כל סיוע אחר. -Riley Huntley (SWMT) 04:56, 27 בינואר 2016 (IST)

תוכל לסייע להבא, אם תכתוב מראש הודעה במזנון ותודיע על כוונתך, ותמתין לאישור מישהו מהקהילה בטרם תבצע פעולות מסוג זה. במקרה שלך התוצאה אכן היתה חיובית, אבל כבר היו לנו מקרים של אנשים עם כוונות טובות, ש(ללא כוונה רעה, פשוט מתוך חוסר ידיעה) ביצעו מספר רב של עריכות שנאלצנו לשחזר ידנית, אחת-אחת. תודה על ההבנה ועל הסבלנות!--נחום - שיחה 05:00, 27 בינואר 2016 (IST)

Let me try to clarify things a bit. Of course there's no point in having a blank page in any book. However, the hebrew site here is very different from the english site in that many of the entries are often commentaries or supracommentaries on other works.In the above mentioned book, the Biur Halacha, the book is actually an appendix to a work that itself is a commentary on another work , the Shulchan Aruch! The arrangement of the pages is based on the division of the root book, the Shulchan Aruch, this then allowed us to create "composite pages" that include chapters and sub-chapters of the Shulchan Aruch with every relevant commentary on that section. As such, I had wanted to have a page existing yet kept blank to indicate to the reader that on the said chapter there in fact is no commentary of the Biur Halach, and not that we just didn't get around to adding it to the site. In hindsight, it might have been wiser had we added '''(no commentary written on this chapter)''' to further communicate. In any event I'm fine if ultimately the choice is for these pages to be deleted. I just think it's a little unsightly on the main page to see so many red links when in fact the work is entirely completed.... The above would be clearer to understand if i had the abilty to add links to various pages but it proves too difficult when typing in english... --~~~~ --Roxette5 (שיחה) 08:22, 27 בינואר 2016 (IST)

אנסה גם להסביר בעברית, בקיצור, כאשר אתה מוחק את כל הדפים האלו הדף הראשי של ביאור הלכה מוצג עם הרבה קישורים אדומים כאשר באמת הספר שלם לחלוטין. לכן רצינו ליצור דפים אלו ולהשאיר אותם ריקים להראות לקורא שבאמת אין פירוש קיים בקטע זה.--Roxette5 (שיחה) 08:25, 27 בינואר 2016 (IST)

A possible solution is to create the link only if the file exists. See my edits to תבנית:סימנים למפרשי שו"ע/או"ח. --אראל סגל • שיחה • י"ז בשבט ה'תשע"ו 08:50, 27 בינואר 2016 (IST)

That would be great and i'd be fine with that -- so long as it doesn't "overload" the page. Erel, if i apply the template to all ~700 simanim of the page -- will it cause an overload and show an error in the middle? i know that this error comes when overusing the template

קטע עם כותרת

so that's why i'm asking....--Roxette5 (שיחה) 09:15, 27 בינואר 2016 (IST)

This is a good question. I do not know. We should try and see. --אראל סגל • שיחה • י"ז בשבט ה'תשע"ו 09:32, 27 בינואר 2016 (IST)

On second thought it's not a good solution because it would take away all of the links from commentaries that are not yet complete (thereby closing it off to future users). The Taz, the Gra, the shaarei tshuva -- all are incomplete right now.

with your permission i'd like to revert it back...--Roxette5 (שיחה) 09:42, 27 בינואר 2016 (IST)

אם אתה צריך את הדפים ריקים, לפחות תשים בהם קטגוריה כלשהי או תבנית {{ריק}}.--נחום - שיחה 14:16, 27 בינואר 2016 (IST)

I suggest seeing what other wikisource's are doing, so far this is the only wikisource, or wikimedia project for that matter, that has empty blank pages. I'd take a look at other wikisources and use a similar system to them. I personally think red links look better than a whole bunch of blue links that open to nothing. Wikimedia did an experiment, and it shows that users are more likely to create an article if it is a red link. -Riley Huntley (SWMT) 10:07, 29 בינואר 2016 (IST)

I understand what you're saying. you didn't understand me though. We don't want red links because there is nothing for the user to create for that chapter ie. the particular commentator under discussion did not write any comments for that chapter... that is exactly why we want either blue links or no links at all... i've begun creating an alternate page that bears no links

משתמש:Roxette5/ביאור הלכה דף ראשי

... i just need someone to mass delete the remaining pages and i will continue

Mass Page deletion

Hi

Do you have any suggestions for an easy way to delete the many pages you've marked for deletion without me having to delete each page individually. it would save me alot of time. thank you. --Roxette5 (שיחה) 21:13, 27 בינואר 2016 (IST)

משתמש:Roxette5, אני מאמין שאחד הבוטים שלנו, אולי זה של משתמש:אלישיב ליפא, יוכל לעשות את זה (אם ניתן לו את ההרשאות המתאימות).--נחום - שיחה 00:16, 28 בינואר 2016 (IST)

Howdy, if you flagged my bot as an admin temporarily, then I could; otherwise I recommend an admin run AWB and use the delete function. -Riley Huntley (SWMT) 10:05, 29 בינואר 2016 (IST)

This is somewhat dangerous, I believe it better be done with AWB. ‏– Fuzzy ‏– 12:04, 29 בינואר 2016 (IST)

Good choice, plus less work for me. :) -Riley Huntley (SWMT) 00:34, 31 בינואר 2016 (IST)

the page has been taken cared of and the relevant pages have been deleted. thank you for your contribution to the site :-)--Roxette5 (שיחה) 12:26, 10 בפברואר 2016 (IST)